[ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> stephanie: happy monday morning, everybody. wow! look at our show today. rude pundit, eric boehlert as usual and reverend jim wallace live in that chair in hour number three. >> we've never had him in the studio. >> stephanie: he's going to bless the studio. captain america's underpants. jacki schechner. listen this is not what it sounds like but jacki schechner spent the night at my house for the second weekend in a row. i don't want to start tongues wagging. >> any pictures? >> stephanie: no. just a lot of parties lately.

a lot of -- >> i'm smart enough not to try to make the drive back because we live on opposite sides of the city. it is safer for me to crash than it is to drive home. >> she does have quite a few bedrooms. >> it is like a little bed and breakfast. >> stephanie: we had multiple friends stay. >> one made eggs in the morning. it really was a bed and breakfast. >> stephanie: it is becoming prom weekend every weekend. all right. here she is, the prom queen jacki schechner. >> good morning, everybody. happy monday. at least 40 people had been injured in a powerful blast in the czech capital of prague. it happened around 10:00 a.m. local time this morning and the old time section of the city. authorities suspect the cause is natural gas. at least four of the 40 people hurt are seriously wounded and authorities fear some people may still be trapped in that rubble. lawmakers in washington are questioning today are why russian security forces aren't

been more forth coming with the information they have about boston bombing suspect tamerlan tsarnaev. just this weekend russian authorities revealed they had recorded conversations between tsarnaev and his mother, discussing jihad. here's new york senator chuck schumer. >> if russia wants to cooperate with us in terrorism that cooperation has to be a little better than just giving us little crumbs of information and not telling us the whole story. it makes no sense. >> schumer expressing concern as to why the fbi failed to follow up on tsarnaev's six-month trip to russia if, when he came back, he started posting extremist inflammatory content online. the man accused of sending rice--laced letters to president obama and judge wicker will make appearance. he was arrested in tupelo. he's the second man arrested in this case. first nabbed kevin curtis but

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[ laughter ] >> stephanie: all right. so by the way, once again another edition of i am always right. i got some complaint calls last week. zubeidat is a grieving mother. >> computer says no. >> stephanie: something a little off about zubeidat. turns out i was correct about that. a lot of new -- she was on the terrorist watch list as well as it turns out. had a role in -- >> i think she played a very strong role in radical process. i believe she comes into the united states. she will be detained for questioning. so i think there is a connection there. >> stephanie: yeah. we thought it was just the stolen lord & taylor scarves that would prevent her from coming. >> i remember during one of our trips early in the show, i wasn't allowed to get on the plane initially. it was a no fly thing. another jim ward. >> stephanie: probably with good cause. well, like you a 9-11 conspiracy theorist.

zubeidat is. and she has a theme already on "the stephanie miller show." ♪ >> stephanie: oh this is catchy already. ♪ zab dat ♪ ♪ zubeidat ♪ ♪ zubeidat ♪ ♪ zooby dot dot ♪ ♪ zooby dot ♪ >> stephanie: mary in ann arbor channeling louie armstrong or something. >> no, it is from "sesame street." >> stephanie: it sounds a little -- >> first saw in germany. first episode i saw. >> stephanie: i didn't think we would ever arrive with

abbottabad but we have a new theme. ♪ abbottabad ♪ ♪ abbottabad ♪ ♪ >> stephanie: i got into it with a caller last week. do i have the same sympathy for her as the mom of some 8-year-old was blown up? no, i don't think so. when you raise two terrorist bombers, i don't know. a lot of new stuff coming out. here's the other thing. obviously russia failed to share with us exactly the information about -- >> thanks, russia! >> don't tell the americans about this. i've got something brewing. don't worry about it. >> stephanie: because there can be some obama bashing in it. republicans are like oh, the fbi bungled it. maybe because we didn't hear about the phone conversations with her son where they allegedly discussed jihad. that might have been some -- now, a warning? now a warning?

>> now, a warning? >> stephanie: why you were warning us? just saying. all right. would you like the not so fun fact? >> sure. >> stephanie: first of all did you see the photos of her? what's that all about? i was trying to think -- >> run for your life. >> pat benatar if she hadn't waxed her eyebrows. >> stephanie: exactly. zoinks. rocky mountain mike wrote and thought the same thing. yeah. photos of her as a younger woman. >> late '70s grace. jefferson starship, before they became starship. >> stephanie: people in my early rock n' roll deejay days, they said i looked like grace slick. who is she? like 90? she's always been older than me is what i'm saying. i had some unfortunate -- who didn't have unfortunate '80s hair, really?

>> i had a zipper head and a mullet. >> stephanie: mine was -- woo unfortunately. in photos of her as a younger woman, zubeidat wears a low-cut -- and had her hair teased like an '80s rock star. we're going with grace slick. after she arrived in the u.s. from are russia in 2002, she went to beauty schools and did facials at a suburban day spa. in recent years people noticed a change. she began wearing a head scarf and -- and cited that's why i went with head scarf because i was afraid -- so i went with head scarf. >> you're thinking of a boxing move. high jab. upper cut. >> stephanie: in recent years she began wearing the head scarf and cited conspiracy theories about 9-11. a plot against -- >> well, no, that's not true. >> stephanie: that's why it is

dangerous to traffic in conspiracy theories in my opinion. >> because then you end up on terrorist watch lists. >> stephanie: can't get on a trip to columbus to do a radio show. >> buildings were built to withstand the airliners. >> stephanie: and a party. with zubeidat. >> every one of them fell down. this is never ever ever ever happened by accident. >> stephanie: this is what it was like being in the elevator with him and orly taitz after she was on the show with us. some things in common. magical bonding. >> all conspiracy theories are exactly alike. everybody believe what's on the tv. it is on the tv. it must be true. >> stephanie: ask tamerlan. it is on the internet. >> sure, it was a brown-skinned arab man who was in custody according to john king. it was on the tv. it must be true. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: tsarnaev is

drawing increased attention after federal officials say russian authorities intercepted her phone calls including one with which she vaguely discussed jihad. >> how can you vaguely discuss jihad? >> jihaddish? >> we should do some, jihad if you know what i'm saying. >> stephanie: she was speaking pig latin. ixnay on the conversation kay about the ejay. with her elder son tam. by the way our fondest dream has already expired. apparently they're not coming there. will be no weekend at tam's. because they were going to come and get his body and presumably take him water skiing. >> nobody has claimed the body yet. >> stephanie: no. >> what is going on with said body? >> stephanie: for now no weekend with tamerlan.

i treat you better than that. i am mother. don't i get a turn? >> you're not being sensitive. >> stephanie: i'm being insensitive to the terrorist's mom who is also on the watch list. see, jim helper? >> that will get you back off the terrorist watch list. >> stephanie: back on, magically. thank god we don't do this show on the road anymore. okay. in another phone conversation, she was recorded talking to someone in southern russia who is under fbi investigation in an unrelated case. zubeidat very chatty. very, very chatty. >> she loves the phone. like a teenager. >> stephanie: she told "the associated press" in dagestan, it is all lies and hypocrisy. awes he was all like and then i went -- i know, right? >> lying on her stomach on the bed twisting the phone cord around her toe. >> stephanie: maybe she'll blame auto correct.

i found a new web site this weekend, damn you auto correct. we have to post a link to it. the top ten misunderstandings between parents and kids. >> we posted a link to that site two years ago. >> stephanie: this is a new one, top ten misunderstandings between parents and kids. >> i love you that just discovered -- >> stephanie: damn you auto correct. i didn't say jihad -- she'll just blame siri. >> recalculating. >> stephanie: i'm sick and tired of this nonsense they make up about me and my children. people know me as a regular person. i've never been mixed up in criminal intentions, especially any link to terrorism. you know what that is? an exception for the lord & taylor arrest. i've never been mixed up in any intentions did i steal a bunch of crap from lord & taylor? yes. she made -- it was a little

exception there. especially any length of terrorism. >> except for the whole talking about jihad -- >> stephanie: stealing stuff from lord & taylor, it was not a terrorist kind of a scarf. it was just a whatever. okay. amid the scrutiny, tsarnaev and her ex-husband, ansoor say they have put off the idea of any trip to the u.s. to re-claim their elder son's body or try to visit dzhokhar. >> have you noticed the father has sunglasses just like the unabombers? >> stephanie: we're not saying there's any connection. >> no, not at all. >> stephanie: he told "the associated press" on sunday, he was too ill to travel. that's new. >> that's convenient. >> stephanie: as we mentioned zubeidat faces a 2012 shoplifting charge in a boston suburb. all right. so this is what all right wing radio was screaming about

although i have to say in this case, i'm a little down with it. with four children, they were on and off public assistance benefits for years. >> yeah. >> stephanie: that part is a little bit -- teensy bit annoying. [ laughter ] >> thanks for the checks. here's a bomb! >> stephanie: okay. zubeidat, i'm not done. >> fine. >> stephanie: zubeidat said she and tamerlan turned more deeply into their muslim faith. after being influenced, here he is by misha. >> stephanie: we still don't have a last name. the man whose full name she won't reveal. the russian character never has a last name. >> i highly doubt that. [ buzzer ] >> misha's real name is not -- >> stephanie: from boca. that's not who it is!

>> most definitely not any of those. >> stephanie: no. any way -- displub dat would not reveal misha's real name or -- [ whatever! ] >> stephanie: he converted to islam. >> i'm willing to bet the last name has an ian at the end. i think we can narrow it down. >> stephanie: i'm telling you right now. someone is writing a sequel to "foul play" starring goldie hawn and chevy chase right as we speak. >> not dudley moore. >> stephanie: is misha an albino? >> no. he has a red beard doesn't he? >> stephanie: no. he looks more like yukon cornelius of "rudolph the red-nosed reign dear." >> no. there's not nothing. there's silver and gold in a foul play remake at this point.

>> have we checked the rankin bass archives of puppets? maybe misha is there. >> stephanie: all right. part two. >> one of our puppets is missing. >> stephanie: more zubeidat fun facts as we continue. 19 minutes after the hour on "the stephanie miller show." >> it is fun for ages 8 to 80. join us. >> announcer: it's "the stephanie miller show." democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us.

you know who is coming on to me now? you know the kind of guys that do reverse mortgage commercials? those types are coming on to me all the time now. (vo) she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. you would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. >>absolutely. >> and so would mitt romney. (vo) she's joy behar. >>and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking?

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bottom of the hour. some great stuff on the george w. bush libary. very exciting last week. he calls it the whitewash atorium. 1-800-steph-12 toll free from anywhere. these are more zubeidat fun facts and such as we were talking about the latest out of boston case. that will stick in your head all day. i'll get a lot of thanks a lot letters! so, we were talking about some friends and people that got facials from her. >> um, um, forget -- >> i'm not -- >> no. >> stephanie: okay. so we're talking about her getting radicalized. obviously the news came out over the weekend she was also on the terrorist watch list along with her adorable son tam. okay. so let's see. she left her job at a day spa and started giving facials in her apartment. oh boy. zubeidat here?

i'm here for my facial. can you do something about these pores? okay. one client, alyssa noticed the change when tsarnaev put a head scarf on before leaving the apartment. she had never worn -- a working at the spa previously. she started to refuse to see boys that had gone through puberty. >> uh, what? >> stephanie: for facials i guess. how many boys get facials? >> they might because of acne problems. >> stephanie: oh, i see. she wouldn't take them. yeah. once they grew hair, that was it. they were out. she had consulted a religious figure misha, and he had told her it was sacrilegus. she was often fasting. >> of course. >> grace slick never fasted. >> stephanie: she didn't have grace slick's hair.

okay. the woman interviewed stopped visiting the family's home for spa treatments in late 2011 or 2012 when, during one session zubeidat started quoting a conspiracy theory telling me shouldn't you thought nip was -- telling me she thought nip was created. my son knows all about it. you can read it on the internet. >> stephanie: here's the rub. obviously people are like oh, the fbi bungled this, yada yada. the vague warning from the russians that he was a follower of radical islam who had changed drastically since 2012, that led them to interview tamerlan. they placed his name and mother's name on various watch lists but the inquiry was closed in late spring of 2011. so it is the phone conversations that russia didn't tell the fbi about. interesting rub about this. the conversations are significant because had they

been revealed earlier there might have been enough evidence for the fbi to initiate a more thorough investigation of tsarnaev family. er ansoor's brother believed he had a great influence. tamerlan was living in russia, zubeidat was arrested at a shopping mall in the suburb of natick massachusetts. accused of trying to shoplift women's clothing. >> that would be at the north shore mall. wow. >> stephanie: that's a lot of stuff. >> that is a lot of stuff. >> stephanie: that's like winona ryder kind of -- the sled in, you know, in the grinch kind of stuff. >> a little bit like winona ryder. >> stephanie: the dog and the sled. like really? did you really think you were going to walk out of there with that much crap? she failed to appear in court to

answer the charges but instead left the country. so that's -- >> i haven't seen with guy. >> stephanie: anyway, the thing they're talking about the reason why the fbi may not have taken -- first of all, russia didn't share the information is because apparently they frequently asked the fbi to investigate chechens because they obviously have had this on-going war with them. so that was -- >> that's just not going we kind of want to get involved with. >> stephanie: i'm reading from the "daily beast." one source of the mistrust is the perception that russians have tried to get them to spy on the community in the u.s. under the guise of legitimate law enforcement. they would have been interested in tamerlan because of his chechen heritage. russians have fought two vicious wars with the chechens. u.s. official said the fsb placed as many as 100 requests with the fbi for investigations

into chechens living in the united states between 2010 and 2012 and few if any of them panned out. again, you know, as the investigation continues that's part of the larger picture of why what happened might have happened. they're describing it in relationship between u.s. and russia has been frowght in cooperating. russia didn't want to charities methods -- didn't want to share its methods. it would have been helpful if he had had mentioned phone conversations where the jihad was discussed. just saying. disappointed in you russia. 29 minutes after the hour. >> disappointed! >> stephanie: rude pundit next on "the stephanie miller show."

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you know who is coming on to me now? you know the kind of guys that do reverse mortgage commercials? those types are coming on to me all the time now. (vo) she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. you would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. >>absolutely. >> and so would mitt romney. (vo) she's joy behar. >>and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking? alright, in 15 minutes we're going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us.

>> fantastic! >> "the stephanie miller show." >> are you the kind this network cannot get enough of. >> stephanie: it is "the stephanie miller show." 34 minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-12 the phone number. monday. >> the rude pundit. ♪ ooh papa, papa ♪ >> stephanie: good morning papa. >> good morning. i actually wanted to give. >> bit of news. >> stephanie: what's happening? >> they did find misha. >> stephanie: i know. i love this piece they said when they first -- his name appeared, they said it didn't seem like it

should be hard to find him. how many balded red bearded muslims live in the boston area. what about him? >> he said that the fbi is pretty much done with him. that there's nothing. there's nothing -- that he's like what the hell? why are you all looking at me? >> there's no there. >> stephanie: wtf. i love because i got overexcited about the headline "misha speaks". >> misha said i've been cooperating. >> stephanie: i think he said i'm tired now. i'll take a nap. >> i'm pretty tired. i think i'll go home now. >> and that his family is like we love america. come on! >> obviously a southern armenian accent. >> well, the language. >> stephanie: lovely review as i was saying about the george w. bush presidential libary and

whitewashtorium of wonders is what you call it. i love you say it actually is forcing us to look backwards and think that dumb [ bleep ] was doing the best his best little ole brain can do. he didn't mean to set the nation on a path to imminent doom. >> he calls it the hard rock cafe of catastrophic policy decisions. >> i said the an -- the an toire of history. do we really have that short of memory here? you know, i thought -- when he broke down crying for just a minute i thought yeah, cry you bastard, cry. >> stephanie: we were crying for eight years. as only you can tell it, you say truly, it is like dedicating a libary to a gorilla who wasn't as gentle as -- wasn't it adorable to watch them together briefly. at least it could use sign

language to say me throw poop now. you might have to duck but don't say you weren't warned. we didn't get a similar warning about the bush presidency. >> at the re-election, we had our warning. we still elected him. >> election in quotation marks. >> stephanie: for those of you who have not got an chance to visit the libary, the rude pundit will take you through it. george w. bush's building, shaped like a hand with a middle finger thrusting out pointing toward the heaven where he found the strength to deal with the crises that he created during his two terms in office. >> yep. i don't think it was frank gary. it would have had a little more curve to it. >> stephanie: statues out-front of drunken sisters barbara and jenna welcome you inside because indeed, what is life but a party. >> they were really our hosts through the years. if you just stayed blind drunk you won't have to think about

it. >> stephanie: statues passed without skirts over their heads. >> secret service trying to get -- >> stephanie: secret service holding their hair back while they puked. >> wondering how many years did i go through training for this? >> stephanie: right. you say the first space is the how the [ bleep ] this guy become president room and it deals with bush's early rooms. the megaphone he used as a school cheerleader a pile of cocaine and a wrecked car or two. i think you're making up that part of the exhibit. >> laura bush had the red car. >> stephanie: with the boyfriend hood ornament. >> yeah. but george had the drunk driving charge. >> yeah, that's true. >> stephanie: you'll learn how bush succeeded in scoring every business he came near. the next room lets you have fun counting ballots from florida. how is that chad hanging? you get to figure it out. you have a timer on you and

before you're done, rowdy g.o.p. >> operator: s will distract you and they will rush to put an end to it. that's scary. >> i like the interactive exhibits. i think they really capture the feeling of panic and nausea we have for eight years. >> stephanie: you know, you make a really good point on gun safety in terms of the whole boston case. you say wrap your head around this. tamerlan tsarnaev, aka, the dead one was on the terrorist watch list and that fact alone wouldn't have stopped him at all from legally buying any gun he wanted. it wouldn't have even slowed him down. you can be forced to leap through hoops and have your anus probed but it cannot be used to slow someone down if he or she wants an ar-15. >> isn't that one of the mind-blowing things? you sit there and wonder does the nra just hate us? you know. at this point the logic behind

that is just stunning to me that there are so many activities that you can be stopped for just by being on this list. but this one thing no, no, you're cool. go buy a gun. >> stephanie: by the way as you tend to do, you fancy professor, you dug in and found some statistics which are a little bit terrifying. between 2004 and 2010, people on terrorism watch lists tried to buy guns and explosives more than 1400 times. they succeeded in more than 90% of the cases or 1,321 times. are you cool with this average gun owner, you ask? that's pretty terrifying. >> that's not to say there aren't flaws in the terrorist watch lists. you know, that it is accusing people of a crime that they probably haven't committed. but if you're gonna have them, at least you know, say well, maybe they shouldn't have guns or maybe we should take an extra close look at them before they get guns. you know, i love with the whole

background check thing, you know, you hear from gun nuts all the time saying whoa, why don't they prosecute the 40,000 people declined from getting guns? and it's because most of the time, people don't know that there's something in their background when they go -- that's why there is a background check, you know. it is not so that we can arrest everyone that applies and gets declined. it is just a stupid talking point that they've gotten now. >> their paranoia. they assume the government is out to get you. >> right. but yet, in that case, they want the government to come and get you because somehow you've offended good law-abiding gun owners by daring to apply to get a permit to buy a gun. >> stephanie: yep. you say the media is filled with articles and reports introspective and knee jerk about what could have been done to prevent the bombing and future attacks. none of the ideas involve preventing people from having easy access to weapons and explosives. that was the other thing that came out during this investigation that you know, at least the cop may have still

been alive if they had been allowed to trace explosives which the nra made sure they couldn't. >> they were not allowed to put tracers into fertilizers or gunpowder. that would allow them to trace where they got it and who bought it. >> stephanie: you know, it is interesting. an article in the "daily beast" today false flag, g.o.p. lawmakers embrace the crazy. they're talking about how they really are increasingly embracing these crazy conspiracy theories but it is affecting policy. that's why background checks didn't pass because of national registry hitler. >> yeah. i mean we keep -- >> hit hitler streak. >> stephanie: hitler flaw. >> we keep thinking we've hit some kind of tipping point where it is like they can't get any crazier. yet, there they are. they're scrawling on the wall with their own feces and we're thinking okay, it can't get any worse than this. what's next? i'm waiting for the cannibalism.

[ laughter ] >> stephanie: all right. as are we. eat up, everybody. all right, rudeness, great stuff as usual. talk to you next week, honey. >> all righty, bye. >> stephanie: there he goes, rudeness. we have to play this. we'll post a link to it on our facebook page. because this gun stuff it really has gotten so insane when you look at -- the points rude just made. everybody's been talking about this heather waily with moms -- gee, moms that don't want everyone to be able to have a gun to shoot their kids. i have to find the actual name of her group. anyway, a lot of our friends did call a bunch of the senators after this disgusting gun vote. but she apparently got a lot of machines. remember we had melissa fitzgerald in last week. she finally got back to saxby chambliss' office. she mostly got machines then she got bored. by the time she got to senator bob corker's office who also

voted against background checks. >> someone actually answered at corker's office. >> stephanie: right. she was bored and her kids were at home. because they thought it was hilarious, like it was a prank call. this is her on the phone. >> i'm in bristol. >> okay. thank you. >> and i would like to tell senator corker that on behalf of all mentally ill individuals in america, i want to thank him for protecting my second amendment rights. >> yes ma'am, i will certainly let senator corker know that message. >> can you repeat it for me, please. >> on behalf yourself and the mentally ill people of america you would like to thank the senator for supporting your rights. >> yes. can you add that just because i have been -- to be a dangerous paranoid schizophrenic doesn't mean that i shouldn't have the right to buy more guns. don't you agree?

>> i can certainly let senator corker know that. >> do you agree? don't you? >> i will let senator corker know that for you. i'm just here to reflect his views. >> that's his views. he supports my right as a paranoid schizophrenic to not have to suffer the indignation of being turned away from a background check. >> yes ma'am. i'll let him know that for you. >> can you tell me if he agrees with me? >> his vote does reflect that. >> yes, it does. thank you. [ laughter ] >> finally! >> stephanie: rock on, sister! she's at the top of my future wife list. >> i think she's married and has children. >> stephanie: oh, whatever! she said most of the calls went to voice mail. by the time i got to corker, i was bored telling him how shameful the vote was. my kids were home and they were getting a kick of mom making what they interpreted as prank calls. moms demand action for gun sense in america is the name of her

group. it is -- she sort of took a unique approach. the first however many calls she said -- that's awesome. it went all over the youtube and the interweb as a perfect -- [ applause ] skit. okay. 45 minutes after the hour. right back on "the stephanie miller show." >> this is too weird man. >> announcer: it's "the stephanie miller show." marijuana looks like. (vo) with award winning documentaries that take you inside the headlines, way inside. (vo) from the underworld, to the world of privilege. >> everyone in michael jackson's life was out to use him. (vo) no one brings you more documentaries that are real, gripping, current.

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freeway of love ♪ >> stephanie: 50 minutes after the hour. eric boehlert of media matters coming up it he top of the hour. misha speaks. [ ♪ dramatic ♪ ] they finally found misha and he said -- >> i'm pretty tired. i think i'll go home now. >> again he's obviously from southern armenia. >> stephanie: as yukon cornelius would say, we got nothing from him apparently. i love the way this story reads. the new york review of books said it has found the mysterious misha. >> what? how would the new york review of books have found him? >> stephanie: like they're a top investigative agency. >> wow. >> stephanie: hello new york review -- misha? [knock at door] >> stephanie: he says he is no -- there is a last name. it ends in ian doesn't it? >> i don't know. jim, you try it.

allahavidorv. >> that's pretty close. let's just go with misha. let's go back to misha. when dzhokhar and tamerlan, when they started mentioning -- when the family members started mentioning a mysterious man named misha suggesting he was the driving force behind tamerlan's dissent into radical islam, it shouldn't be hard to find him. how many balding red bearded converts live in boston? >> red beards might not be uncommon. >> stephanie: the fbi identified misha but found he had no ties to terrorism or to the boston bombings specifically. this is the new york review of books. >> sure. great investigative minds up there. >> stephanie: jessica fletcher. >> c.i.a. >> stephanie: book review. >> are you talking whenever they review, a books -- they review a book, someone dies?

>> jessica fletcher. >> stephanie: today i was able to meet misha whose real name is -- i found him at his home in rhode island. oh well that's tricky. he moved to rhode island. in a lower middle class neighborhood where he lives in a modest, tiny apartment with his elderly parents. oh dear. he said he was a convert to islam and has known tamerlan but denied any part in the bombings. if i had been his teacher, i would have made sure he didn't do anything like this. he's a 39-year-old man of armenian dissent. he has a thin, reddish blond beard. he knew tamerlan three years ago. he hasn't had contact with him since. the plot thickens. >> so he's part ukrainian hence the slavic name. >> the way they handle these device and the trade craft leads me to believe that there was a trainer and the question is where is that trainer or

trainers? >> stephanie: well, you know interesting "daily beast" has an interesting article about the thes al-awlaki tie. investigators, he and his brother were influenced by anwar al-awlaki. anyway, so that -- but that's the preacher that influence and by the way, jerome got him. just saying. >> kaboom. [ explosion ] >> stephanie: during his hospital room interrogation dzhokhar told fbi agents he and his brother were influenced of the sermons by anwar al-awlaki who was killed by an anti-drone strike in 2011. just saying. >> sure. >> stephanie: good for that drone. all i'm saying. >> drops have their place. -- drones have their place. >> stephanie: it looks more

like it was al-awlaki. did i say that right? we know there is a long trail of hardened terrorists who have acknowledged coming under his sway. the times square bomber and hassan, the fort hood shooter said they were radicalized and he personally supervised the 2009 christmas day bombing attempt by the so-called underwear bomber. it is because of him. we have to take everything off at the airport. >> thanks! >> that's a lot of work for someone of my age to not -- if i take that much stuff off i want something. >> what bothers me about that is you're walking around barefoot on ground that other people have walked on. >> stephanie: exactly. >> like a locker room over by tsa. ugh! >> stephanie: dzhokhar admitted he and his brother learned how to build the pressure cooker bombs from the al-qaeda internet. that was run by an american

propagandist for al-qaeda with close ties to al-awlaki and he was killed in the same u.s. drone strike that killed al-awlaki. again, a two-fer. a two for one. i'm just saying good drones, bad drones. good drone. >> of course, we don't know how many innocent civilians were killed in the process. >> stephanie: oh really? should have gotten those two guys. >> la, la, la, la. >> stephanie: you're not glad we got those two guys? >> i'm saying sometimes there is collateral damage. >> stephanie: it is a concern. >> i'm not argue with you about that. >> ooh boy. >> stephanie: as i mentioned part of what happened here is we talk about earlier is the cooperation between the u.s. and russia and they described the relationship as fraught on law enforcement and intelligence matters. one reason the fbi may not prove more aggressively is the russians never revealed basis for their suspicions. they assumed they had interhe wanted worrisome things.

two suspected radicals under surveillance in russia but the russias would have been loathed to disclose, revealing their methods to a foreign intelligence service. and then there's also the chechen part of it that we talked about that sometimes the fbi is suspicious because russia wants them to -- basically spy on any chechens living here just for their political reasons and not because there's any legitimate concern. a lot of -- >> for not saying loath to the clothe. would have been easy to do. >> stephanie: i appreciate that. representative mike rogers on the house intelligence committee. >> there are still persons of interest in the united states that the fbi would like to have conversations with. >> well then. >> little conversation. >> stephanie: apparently this is news to me. but there is a richt called dutch reppers berger -- ruppersberger from maryland. >> whether he was radicalized we have to do investigation of

russia. when he went over to russia and then came back things changed. >> ruppersberger. >> he's on our side. >> stephanie: i know. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: all right. so eric boehlert with a lot of great stuff on the boston case and much more. by the way i forgot to mention this hour has been tbrowt by therabreath mouthwash and toothpaste. nothing works longer than therabreath. available at target, walmart walgreens and other fine stores. >> i love that stuff. >> stephanie: a lot of people who -- were saying who brought us this fine hour? therabreath. thank you. 58 minutes after the hour. right back with eric boehlert on "the stephanie miller show."

[ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> stephanie: hello tv land. eric boehlert coming up in a couple of minutes. jacki schechner i'm surprised she's even here. today is shrimp scampi day. talk about national shrimp scampi day. >> i resisted the you were to roll myself in garlic butter. >> jim is disappointed about that. >> really? >> stephanie: you've been tweeting about it. it is indeed shrimp scampi day. >> one of the national locations

has national shrimp scampi day. i thought that was important to share with our audience. >> stiff wonder if the tsarnaev family enjoys -- exactly. all right. here she is in the current news center. jacki schechner. >> good morning, everybody. president obama is going to make a personnel announcement at the white house this afternoon nominating anthony fox to be the next secretary of transportation. fox's experience in the transportation sector includes a supervision of charlotte's light rail expansion and the creation of the city's new streetcar. charlotte home to one of the nation's busiest airports and because being mayor of charlotte is not a full-time job he works for design line which is a hybrid bus company. he served as charlotte's mayor since 2009. he is the city's first african-american mayor in 22 years and when he's nol nated today, he will be the first african-american nominated to president obama's second term

cabinet. "the chicago tribune" reporting that sandra day o'connor has second thoughts about the high court taking up the issue of bush v. >> al: in 2000. they decided 5-4 with o'connor casting the deciding vote. in retrospect, she tells "the tribune" that florida authorities made a mess of the election process and perhaps the court should have refused to hear the case. >> first lady michelle obama is launching a new credentialing program that will help military members leaving the service land high tech jobs in the private sector. many veterans have trouble making the transition even though they have the training and experience because they haven't earned the proper civilian certification. the white house is team up with the department of defense and several private i.t. companies to help the already trained veterans get the paperwork they need and also in the pilot phase of this program, they'll provide additional training to those who may fall slightly short.

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the right-wing world. acre boehlert from media matters who we love. >> stephanie: good morning eric boehlert. >> good morning. >> stephanie: i love your tweet, you said great only 13 years too late. justice o'connor questions whether the supreme court should have decide bush v. gore. >> i see tweets about that this morning, too. i think "the chicago tribune" picked it up as well. that was late last week. >> stephanie: thanks, sandy. we just want to say -- >> now, a warning? >> stephanie: thanks! >> it really was one of the most painful political events ever. so now when you think about -- look at what the previous 13 years could have been like. then you go down that road and you have to stop after two minutes and you're like iraq war, climate change. it is just like thanks. but you know -- >> stephanie: like taylor swift, "i knew he was trouble when he walked in." apparently sandra day o'connor did not. we were talking to rude pundit who calls the library the

whitewashatorium. >> sandra day owe canner and others on the court have come to the clear realization of the extraordinary damage it did to the court's reputation. up until that point, we've seen other erosion since in public confidence. there's an assumption now that you don't really know what the supreme court's going to do. you have to factor in the politics. and everyone growing up always knew, you know, through the civil rights rulings the watergate warnings, rulings and everything, everyone always knew the supreme court played it straight and they flushed that down the toilet with bush v. gore. >> stephanie: you spend your sundays the same way i do, being largely irritated by "meet the press." you say they invite four guests. only one is a democrat. i think gee is the balance off here? i'm like yes yes it is. >> right and then the producer tweeted me and said we have democrats on here and you know,

et cetera, et cetera. but they were hyping their sunday line-up with four guests and three of them were republican and only one democrat. so the breaking news last week out of syria was about wmds. so who was "meet the press" interview exclusively just one foreign talk about wmds when there is a democrat in the white house, they interview a republican, john mccain. how many breaking wmd stories during the bush years did the "meet the press" automatically invite a democrat to talk about? >> stephanie: i was watching with a friend, the minute he came on screen, i said how did they get that booking? i said it is the senator from the green room, john mccain. i know. >> it is a running joke at this point. and i guess they're not in on the joke or they have some reason why failed presidential candidate has to be on every sunday. everyone else just sort of shakes their head. >> stephanie: you wrote a great piece as usual in the wake of the whole boston case. you tweeted i'm going right wing

extremist violence of no concern. shorter fox news version. it is only terrorism if it's done by a muslim. statistic here, 56% of domestic terrorist attacks and plots in the u.s. since 1995 have been perpetrated by right wing extremists. odd that fox news would miss that story. >> it's interesting particularly if you go to the southern poverty law center. you're not even aware of just really the constant arrest and the constant threats any actual acts of violence, militia with stockpiling guns, threatening to blow up buildings threatening to kill judges. killing people. a famous case in georgia a couple of years ago. there was this on -- active military militia group and active or former now. they killed one of their own members because they were afraid he was going to wrat them out because they had big plans on waging war against the government. there was a bomber, would-be bomber arrested in washington because he was going to set off

bombs on an mlk parade route. threats against the president. we know it is not really covered and it is really not covered on fox. there is a steady drumbeat of right wing violence or threats of right wing violence and if you include that, the abortion firebombings and the attack on abortion clinics women's health clinics, it is disoornt. a, fox news doesn't cover it and b, they certainly don't ashrine collective blame. >> stephanie: this guy that pulled up outside the sikh temple in wisconsin and killed worshippers. >> killed six people. he was a 40-year-old. hated blacks, indians native americans, he called nonwhites dirt people. he was interested in joining the ku klux klan. his band rehearsed in front of the nazi flag. you were saying note that back in august of 2012, fox news didn't care much about wade.

>> clearly a form of domestic terror whether it met the specific, you know, law enforcement definition, he pulls up outside the temple and just starting mowing people down with a semi-automatic pistol and eventually killed himself. on prime time on fox i went back and looked. basically no discussion of it. a couple of passing references. but then on the five, on the fox show the five, there were actually complaining. one of the hosts said andrea tanner torah, how do you stop a lunatic? this is not a political issue. when people go on shooting rampages or specifically right wing nuts, extremists go on shooting rampages, the response is how do you possibly stop a lunatic? when a muslim on fox, you know, is accused of an act of terror, fox news definitely knows how you're supposed to stop that lunatic and they're definitely interested in assigning political blame. so they have two completely

standard they used and two complete program choices they used. one, shooters are almost always isolated nuts and there's nothing you can do. remember after sandy hook? when the discussion of gun control. there's nothing you can do. you can't pass any law. the fbi can't stop these people. but when -- when a muslim sits off a bornlings fox news knows exactly how they should be stopped, they're demanding they be passing any laws. >> stephanie: that's the only thing that saved my sunday and "meet the press" was the fact that peter king is one of those that all muslims suddenly must be profiled when this happens whereas keith ellison is saying fine, if there is somebody like this guy go after him but don't profile an entire community. >> as i point out in my piece what i've seen, there's been no evidence that anyone in the cambridge muslim community knew

anything about this plot or this attack. odds are, the brothers didn't tell anyone. people would have turned them in. just like the mom from toronto turned people in. while researching this, 40% terror arrests in the united states are spurred by tips from the muslim community. >> stephanie: yeah. >> so this idea that fox news wants to start bugging you know mosques and things like that. again, when there is a right-wing extremist act of terror, killing a doctor, you know after dr. tiller was murdered i didn't hear anyone suggesting we need to start bugging churches in order to root out would-be terrorists or things like that. >> stephanie: no. exactly. it is always a lone nut. >> exactly. >> stephanie: and as you say even dr. tillis, that's a larger

movement of anti-choice extremists. someone said last week, very close to advocating, killing the abortion doctors who took over for dr. tiller at that clinic. >> i point out in my piece again, there's no connecting the dots and it is not just fox news but it is the most of the mainstream press. you know, in terms of women health clinics attacks. january, may september 2003, january, may july, 2005, may december 2007. 2009, five clinics were targeted in florida. wisconsin, new mexico, kansas. there's stuff out there that's happening and it is right wing extremist. but when we talk about in the press, there is no -- no one connects the dots. there is no profiling to take place and things like that. there's two definite approaches. >> stephanie: as you say and then in the wake of your larger point, of course, in the wake of the boston thing fox news, as

you say all in on the war against islam. >> oh, yeah. you talked about keith ellison. eric bolling last week saying he's an apologist for muslims in congress and he's a very dangerous person. you know, he's not -- they claim he was an apologist for muslims. to me -- that to me is amazing. he's talking about religion. he's not saying he's an apologist for you know, muslim advocacy groups or terrorists or -- eric bolling is complaining that someone speaks up for the voice of muslims. could you imagine? that's a catholic apologist in the congress. or something like that. the bigoted approach is really became transparent. >> stephanie: i wish i could remember now. i'm trying to think which right wing back a doodle talked about so that muslims don't infiltrate congress. keith ellison is from detroit.

going to build a wall around detroit to keep him out of congress? >> they would probably like to do that, too. >> stephanie: eric, great stuff as always. see you next week. there he goes, eric boehlert media matters. 17 minutes after the hour. we roll along on "the stephanie miller show." >> coming up after this commercial, i will be talking even louder! >> announcer: it's "the stephanie miller show." that raised the bar for excellence. >> we dive deep into the topics that we cover. >> and on the next vanguard: >>i've been in and out of jail for the past four or five years. each year thousands of prisoners are released from jail in the us but many wind right back behind bars. >> the same people come back all the time. is the prison door now revolving? >> do you think it will be difficult to stay away from the gang? >>ya. only on current tv.

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1-800-steph-12. >> haven't heard that in a long time. >> stephanie: carrie in boston, you're on "the stephanie miller show." >> caller: how you doing? >> stephanie: good. go ahead. >> caller: up with thing for chris here. natick is in metro west, not the north shore. >> you're right. it has been awhile since i lived in boston. i'm sorry. >> caller: the other thing the right wing nut jobs have not thought about is that russia is supposedly worried about these two being jihadists. what if they arrest them? >> stephanie: that's the other thing that's suspicious. why were they allowed to travel back and forth so much? >> also, the whole chechen thing, reduced it to an islamic -- it is way more than that. >> yeah. >> it is a nationalist thing. russians bombed grozny to level it pretty much. so there is a lot more going on there -- >> stephanie: than meets the eye. exactly.

as is -- there is with zubeidat who we found out is also on the terrorist watch list. ♪ ♪ zooby dot ♪ ♪ zooby dot ♪ >> stephanie: they feel may have radicalized her son. okay. ♪ zooby zooby dot dot dot ♪ [ laughter ] >> stephanie: we're going to get a lot of thanks a lot letters. all day people at work. how do youing, over there? >> if you want to torture your coworkers with that, we posted that up on your facebook page. it is in the cloud.

>> stephanie: representative gohmert who is really such a -- >> gomer. >> stephanie: yeah. >> surprise, surprise, surprise! >> stephanie: not only did he attack the fbi and the justice department for bungling the investigation into the tsarnaev brothers before and after the bombings, he made the accusation that members of the muslim brotherhood have infiltrated the brotherhood and is -- >> sure. it is not radical islam in the case of chechnya. it is more complicated than that. and also, you're an idiot. ♪ you are an idiot ha, ha, ha, ha, ha ha ♪ >> stephanie: speaking about the decision to read the boston suspects his miranda rights, gohmert lashed out at attorney general eric holder saying i guess with our attorney general having spent more time before being a.g. trying to help terrorists than corral them, the first impulse was let's get him to stop talking. >> doesn't this guy have a job at all? >> stephanie: what! how do you make that accusation

against the attorney general of the united states based on what? helping terrorists? okay. >> can't he get sued for that? >> stephanie: one would hope. can i have my conspiracy music please? it is percolating up to local party leaders in the halls of congress should be a warning sign to the g.o.p. writes john avalon. a few days after the boston bombings tremblay, we remember her, stella. stella tremblay -- >> is that who you are or what you do? >> stephanie: she's a new hampshire state legislator. she went to glenn beck's facebook page as you do when you want to share your reasons thoughts on things, to express her conviction that it was -- the terror attack was in fact orchestrated by the u.s. government. echoing conspiracy theorists from glenn beck and alex jones this is what he's saying -- writing about. it is becoming what they're

forming policy on. it is not just -- she's an actual republican legislator. she's not -- tremblay part of a disturbing trend of legislators entertaining conspiracy theories that are unseemly coming from an average citizen. this is starting to infect the halls of congress. they mention the gohmert who is really a -- >> a gomer. >> stephanie: do you think other congresspeople mutter under their breaths when he -- >> what a gohmert! >> stephanie: shut up, gohmert. he mentioned that. the remark came just a day after republican jim jordan of ohio and jason of utah held a hearing to examine the procurement of ammunition of social security administration office. the hearing represented a pittulation if not an outright endorsement of alex jones and info wars, mainly that the homeland security department is

stockpiling ammunition to use against americans in a massive position of martial law. breitbart world net daily michele bachmann's staffers says she gets most of her news there. >> but those aren't news sites! >> stephanie: this is what i'm saying. this is what john writes in "daily beast." perhaps the highest pro-file impact of conspiracy theories was the debate of the background check bill. the claim that closing the existing loopholes will be a first step toward a national gun registry. >> tyranny. hitler. >> stephanie: confiscation to america. >> national registry of your cars. >> stephanie: would lead to martial law as mike huckabee claimed earlier this month. >> sure. once you start registering cars, it is a slippery slope. >> stephanie: steady diet of hyperpartisan media in the minds of party activists. they're starting to shape policy debates. there is a cost to condoning extremism when it seems to benefit your team writes john avalon in the "daily beast."

okay. >> great. >> stephanie: michele bachmann and her news sites. >> so we're being led by those people. >> stephanie: by that. ricin guy has been arrested, the second guy, not the first guy. not elvis impersonator, body organ harvesting conspirists. >> we have this guy with his own dough joe. tupelo mississippi man has been arrested and charged. james everett dutschke. >> ever handled ricin? >> no. i wouldn't recognize ricin if i saw it. >> it usually comes in a jar labeled ricin. >> rice-a-roni. >> the mississippi treat. >> usually have a little skull and crossbones on the label. >> right. >> stephanie: there was some story about somebody -- that was mailed a letter like that. it was a relative of his that did the sniff test. she said this don't smell right.

who does that? she's okay but she's like -- this letter? it don't smell good. now, that's really bad. okay. >> why am i bleeding from my eyeballs? [ laughter ] >> stephanie: a neighbor -- do not do the sniff test on mail. >> a neighbor of dutschke? >> there's something odd. i don't put it past him not one bit. [ laughter ] >> seemed like a nice fella. >> stephanie: finally a neighbor paying attention because usually every next door neighbor of a mass murder says seems like a nice feller. seems a little odd. >> there's something wrong. >> stephanie: a lorne. seemed like a nice fella. that guy was like that guy did it. he's totally a douche. 29 minutes after the hour. right back on "the stephanie miller show."

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it sounded better. speak of funny things on the interwebs, the new ones are the top ten parent/son daughter auto correct failures. let's see. do we have any stain remover or anything. what do you mean? what happened? i shook my [ bleep ] too hard and it exploded all of my clothes on the floor. i'm at work. >> i mean coke. it exploded when i opened it. do we have a tide stick or something in the laundry room? [ applause ] >> that would be worse, the other thing. >> stephanie: i just [ bleep ] my art teacher and he gave me an a instead of a b. sorry, ma marks i meant drew my teacher. sorry. there are a bunch of others that

i can't read because there aren't enough bleeps. >> they're encouraging to text parents with the phrase and then the next thing was oops, that wasn't for you and the reactions the parents give after that is hilarious. >> stephanie: we're wondering if zubeidat will go with the auto correct if there are incriminating texts. i did not mean jihad. damn you siri! all right. i love that. talking with her son about jihad. talking vaguely. how can you talk vaguely about jihad? in pig latin perhaps. the president once again handsome romantic, funny. >> he has great comic timing. >> stephanie: he was terrific at the correspondents' dinner.

>> i did it because i looked in the mirror and i have to admit i'm not strapping young muslim socialist that i used to be. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: he's so cute. >> i looked under my desk for the weapons of mass destruction. they ain't here. >> stephanie: speaking of compare and contrast, white house performance correspondents' dinners okay. the president again. >> obama: some things are beyond my control. for example this whole controversy about jay-z going to cuba. it is unbelievable. i've gotten 99 problems and now jay-z is one. >> stephanie: guess who did not enjoy the white house correspondents' dinner. >> sarah palin. good lord. she got screechy. >> stephanie: she said it was path etic. wow, she wrote that white house correspondents' dinner was pathetic. the rest of america is out there working their ass off while

these d.c. ass clowns throw themselves a party. >> she ran and she lost. >> stephanie: who are you referring you are working your ass off? you quit your job. you don't even have a job. >> you quit two jobs. you quit the reality show. >> she was fired from the show because the ratings just -- >> well, there's that. >> stephanie: in a facebook post she expanded her criticism of the event. presumably would have attended one and given a speech had she you know, won. >> beat out the ass clown. >> stephanie: i imagine my father rolling over in his grave. a former vice presidential candidate use the word "ass clowns." >> i don't think your father would have used that phrase. maybe in private. >> stephanie: well maybe about sarah palin. [ laughter ] i'm just speculating. i don't know. the president. >> obama: republicans are still sorting out what happened in 2012 but one thing they all agree on is they need to do a better job reaching out to

minorities. and then look, call me self-centered but i can think of one minority they could start with. [ laughter ] hello! >> stephanie: that was cute! oh, that was cute. his delivery was great. i loved it. okay. >> ass clown. >> stephanie: by the way remember sarah palin said all of the lawsuits against her from frivolous? [ whatever! ] >> stephanie: guess what former alaska governor sarah palin's request for fees was denied by a judge. >> computer says no. >> stephanie: she had requested $22,000 in attorney fees in a case against her by activist theodore chip toma. he had claimed palin tried to silence his complaints about tourist bus traffic around the mansion in 2009. a chilling effect on his first amendment rights. she said that was frivolous. [ whatever! ] >> stephanie: turned out not to be and she doesn't get attorney's fees. uh-oh, another reality show coming down the pike.

someone needs some cash. the president again. >> obama: of course, even after i've done all of this, some folks still don't think i spent enough time with congress. why don't you get a drink with mitch mcconnell they ask. really? [ laughter ] why don't you get a drink with mitch mcconnell. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: plus it has to be disgusting because he has no lip. can't even retain -- >> a bucket for my spit. spit a bucket. >> stephanie: i picture that. i picture most of his beverages -- >> say that again. >> spittle bucket. [ laughter ] >> one more time. >> spittle bucket. [ laughter ] stiff picture -- because he has a -- lips and chin. i picture a lot of liquid. >> i used to wear a rubber bib for my spittle bucket. >> stephanie: the president one more time. >> obama: i'm not giving up inch

fact i'm taking my charm offensive on the road. texas barbecue with ted cruz. kentucky bluegrass concert with rand paul. and a book burning with michele bachmann. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: all right. oh, and would you like to hear the fashion news? >> okay. >> stephanie: from "new york" magazine. oh boy. i'm not going to be able to pro-nounce this designer. michelle obama wears lhuillier. to the white house correspondents' dinner. i mostly dress like this in a baseball hat. >> stephanie: monique lhuillier. >> monique lululemon? [ ♪ rap ♪ ] >> stephanie: "new york" magazine writing damn, does she look good?

sexier look than usual with a sheer lace panel over other dell dell -- her banks are long enough to be swid swept. to be side swept. >> i like the original blunt fringe. >> stephanie: i do not. i think they look better now. they're a little -- a little sweepy. not like a bad comb-over. like a sexy swid swipe, side sweep. >> did you just call the first lady sexy? >> stephanie: yes! she is. she's hot. the president. at the white house correspondents' dinner again. >> obama: i'm also hard at work on plans for the obama library and some have suggested that we put it in my birthplace but i would rather keep it in the united states. >> stephanie: she how he takes what they do and makes it funny.

uh-oh. >> i'm guessing dennis miller isn't writing for him. >> obama: cnn has taken some knocks lately. the fact is i admire their commitment to cover all sides of the story, just in case one of them happens to be accurate. >> stephanie: oh! ouch! snap! >> no one laughed at the cnn table. >> stephanie: i'll probably be on cnn all week. i did not find that funny at all. >> neither did erin burnett. >> stephanie: okay. the president. >> stephanie: in california where the fund-raiser, having a nice time. i mention that pamela harris is the best looking attorney general in the country. as you might imagine i got trouble when i got back home. [ laughter ] who knew eric holder was so sensitive! >> they did that joke on mrs. colbert? i forget who it was. no. it was "saturday night live." eric holder said i'm right here. i'm standing right here! >> stephanie: all right.

the president one last time. >> obama: we've had some difficult days. but even when the days seemed darkest, we have seen humanity shine at its brightest. we've seen first responders, the national guardsmen who dashed into danger. and every day americans who are opening their homes and their hearts to perfect strangers. >> that's how he ended his remarks. very nice. >> stephanie: everybody says conan o'brien did a great job. here he is. >> it's been several months since you were re-elected, sir so i'm curious, why are you still sending everyone five e-mails a day asking for more money? you won! do you have a gambling problem we don't know about? >> stephanie: all right. in other news over the weekend supreme court justice steven breyer was hospitalized following a bike accident. he underwent reverse shoulder replacement surgery.

>> that sounds bad. >> wait a minute. reverse? shoulder replacement surgery? >> put in backwards? >> stephanie: now look what did you! i can help you with that hump now. >> i have to drive backwards. >> perhaps i could help with you that hump. >> what hump? >> stephanie: worst bicyclist than george w. bush. previously broke his collarbone in a bike accident, sustained broken ribs and a punctured lung in a bicycle mishap in 1993. i wonder if he ran into the same scottish policeman that george bush did? >> bicycling isn't your bag. >> maybe needs to take up spinning or something. >> stephanie: i'm not a strong biker. i don't know. that's his third bike accident. all right. 45 minutes after the hour. right back on "the stephanie miller show." >> ladies and gentlemen prepare yourselves for a shock. >> it's "the stephanie miller show."

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♪ you all want this party started quickly ♪ ♪ right ♪ ♪ stephy, stephy, stephy ♪ >> stephanie: bam. it is "the stephanie miller show." 50 minutes after the hour. does it irritate anyone else that they only fixed the part of the sequester that inconvenienced them a little bit? the air traffic delays because congress people have to fly and they had to wait too long for their flights. >> in their private jets. >> they fly commercial. >> stephanie: that's what i'm saying. >> that's why they fixed it. >> stephanie: it affected them and such public outcry.

obama chided republicans for fixing the plan. left budget cuts that left children and the elderly untouched. i wonder if the reverend jim wallace will have thoughts on that when he comes into the studio in a few minutes. congress speedily approved a bill to revoke the furlough federal air-traffic controllers. you know, it is just -- doing this piecemeal is so ridiculous. sequester is such -- ugh. in agreeing to ease the effects of a small portion of the cuts, mr. obama and leaders in congress made it more difficult to make the spending cuts. now that public ire is resolved, republican lawmakers will be less likely to compromise on replacing the sequester cuts. i get that point because they never do anything because it is the right thing to do. they do it because they have to. >> they do it because they're inconvenienced. >> stephanie: and so much public outcry.

representative rick larson said if you start nickel and diming our way out of sequester at some point it does something bigger to replace the whole thing. hard to say if, you know, they play the politics of this right. that was one of the major things we said. really? you're going to cut back on air-traffic controllers. jay carney on friday called the bill good news for america's traveling public but officials disputed the idea that g.o.p. had won a victory arguing that affects of the sequester would grow and that the faa showed the fixes are difficult to pull off. the president believes it is good news to eliminate this problem but as i said, he believes this is a band-aid covering a massive wound to the economy. we'll see what happens with the rest of it. by the way one doctor of the united cancer specialist in utah said i would invite anyone to tell them waiting for a flight is a bigger problem than waiting longer for chemotherapy which is one of the other effects. >> people are dying because of it. not just being inconvenienced. >> i can't believe nothing has been done about the sequester

yet. >> stephanie: there's been so much other news. that's like six things ago now. people don't realize until it is something that glaring. why am i waiting four hours in every single one of the flights are canceled. >> or you know, why isn't my grandma getting her chemo? >> stephanie: by the way, i have a future wire. i have a future wire. he tried to rape her at gunpoint. she. he pulled out a knife on her and tried to rape her. she bit him in the hand locked him between her thighs. >> just another saturday night for me. [ applause ] >> really? >> stephanie: enough about his behavior at my party saturday night. >> oh really? i missed that party. >> stephanie: don't be ridiculous. >> was he getting handsy? >> i kept my hands to myself. >> stephanie: only with his

harmonica. very handsy with his harmonica. all right. you know, we were saying that lots of letters rolling in about the chicago sexy liberal thank you so much, we love you chicago. there's one thing i have neglected. i need to have a -- i have nothing. i require nothing. and look at what nicki minaj requires. would you like to hear the list? >> absolutely. >> stephanie: among the food items, dried cranberries raw almonds, 24 bottles of dasani, 12 room temperature 12 on ice fruit juices, cheese platter three packs of gum salad with tomatoes, green olives, wishbone light italian dress and wheat or low fat crackers fried chicken lots of wings in three 12 piece buckets. >> this doesn't work. it doesn't fit. i can't work with this. >> no thighs.

>> used to be just cocaine. >> getting fancy. >> stephanie: two dozen pink or white roses candles with the scent of baked goods. halls men though liptous. contact lens case. >> you don't have your own contact lens solution? >> where does one get a candle that smells like baked goods? >> stephanie: i've seen those. right aid wherever -- rite aid wherever. >> at wickes and sticks? >> soft cotton blanket or i don't know. >> cheese bread? huh? >> stephanie: not cheese bread. okay. martha stewart is looking for love. it is so difficult to meet people martha stewart is 71 admits to going on match.com and admitting yes she used her real name which is probably why she didn't get -- that's kind of a buzz kill.

[ wah wah ] by the way i'm martha stewart. >> she doesn't seem like the warmest person. cuddling up next to be a cactus. >> stephanie: i'm just guessing a couple of guys are like -- oh! both of them went back up inside. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: all right. haunting the family compound. >> hearing tap dancing. >> jackson said she's learned of a series of strange events at the home because it was always normal but now it is strange. now it is weird. >> sure. he looks up and it could be a

coyote or something when the dog barks. he looks up at this certain window. that's where michael's bedroom is. that's where he stayed. right, didn't he avoid his familiarly the last 20 years or so. he has better things to do in the afterlife. the dog barks at a certain time every night. he keeps barking and look at it. he hears someone tap dancing in the other part of the house. maybe sammy davis jr.'s ghost is lost. >> maybe. >> stephanie: so intrigued by the family's body guard she called on a top psychic to try to reach her brother. >> didn't she used to have her own psychic network? >> stephanie: right. where did they go? skedaddle? >> if michael wants to talk, i want to know. >> you know what would help? >> brazilian power crystals. >> call now to get six free minutes and while supplies last, this brazilian power crystal

absolutely free. >> stephanie: the writer says i think if he wants to tell you to stop saying crazy things to the media. remember that. they add remember the reality show where latoya was tasered? i think we're finally seeing the effects. oh, the stolen pulp fiction car was found 19 years later. the classic chevrolet convertible found two decades after it was stolen. it took harvey keitel a long time to explain how you clean it. that was the cherry red car that john travolta's character -- it was a little bit of a mess. >> they hit a bump and accidentally blew the guy's head off. as you do. >> stephanie: not enough goo be gone for harvey keitel to help with you that business. the reverend jim wallace next live in studio on "the stephanie miller show."

>> stephanie: hello reverend jim wallace live in studio in a couple of minutes. jacki schechner. we can explain what we do on the weekends. do we do research on various news stories to talk about on the show? i send you funny auto correct things that you then forward to your mother in miami. >> did i forward it to my mother. i should add we did learn this weekend melissa not only makes hot brie but copious amounts of baked goods. >> stephanie: cookies. >> i've never seen one human being bake so many cookies in my

entire life. >> stephanie: a little lucy and ethel in the chocolate factory. >> a little aggressive with the cookies. not entirely sure how many people she thought you were having. >> stephanie: i can't buy that many friends. i can barely get these guys that i pay to have my friends to come. >> there were large piles of cookies. >> stephanie: i forgot to bring the extras. she never needs to be auto corrected, jacki schechner in the current news center. >> syria's prime minister is unharmed today after a bomb went off near his convoy in damascus. state tv says the assassination attempt was the latest to target a top official and president bashar assad's regime. an ie dexter exploded under a car as the prime minister drove by. the blast reportedly killed his body guard and critically injured one of his drivers. the a.p. says bombings like this one are characteristic of islamic radicals fighting

alongside syrian rebels although no one yet has taken responsibility for today's blast. a new set of polls in four states alaska, arizona nevada and ohio show that voters are not pleased with senators who voted against expanding gun sale background checks. according to public policy pollings latest survey, arizona senator jeff flake is down to a 32% approval rating with 52% of voters saying they're less likely to vote for him in the future because of this particular vote on background checks. alaska senator lisa murkowski's popularity is down 16 points with a noticeable drop since she voted against allowing the gun bill to get to the floor of the senate. numbers also down from mark begich, rob portman and dean heller in all four states, the majority of voters ranging from 60 to 72% support expanding background checks for gun sales. the same goes for america's nationwide according to a new gallup poll out today, 65% of preme say the senate should have passed the measure that would

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that this guy, to the best of out for us. >> stephanie: we've never had him live in studio the reverend jim wallace. >> wonderful hoober -- to be here to meet your team. >> stephanie: author of the brand new book "on god's side" what politics hasn't learned about serving the common good. it is a gorgeous picture of the lincoln monument at night. >> my favorite monument of all of the monuments and when i

would take -- when i would tutor inner city kids, teaching them how to read, i would take them there. i would stand with them and help them sound out the second inaugural address. i love to hear them say with charity toward all. >> stephanie: this is the quote you use right here on the top of the book. my greatest concern is to be on god's side. that's sort of what inspired this, right? >> isn't that the problem with religion and politics? to try to bring god on to our side? we can flip the question. and lincoln would have said he didn't always know what it meant to be on god's site. that was the right question. not try to make god be on our side. a little humility and deeper struggle with things is what the book is talking about. >> stephanie: you say given the events of the past couple of weeks, there's no better time to recover the ancient and transforming vision of the common good, to transcend the division and find out what's

right and what works. that seems increasingly difficult, doesn't it? in the partisan times. >> i was in another city and the waitress was very talkative why are you here? what's the book? and she said you know, we do need to take care of each other. we're not taking care of each other. my generation wants to do that. she was a performing artist in chicago. and i think that's the basic thing this book is saying that when you only take care of yourself, your group, your tribe, your party your side, will all be in trouble before long. we have to learn to take care of each other. that's in all of our traditions. religious or not. the second commandment of jesus said love your neighbor as yourself. judaism, islamic -- it is in our secular. the foundation is we do need to start taking care of each other. >> stephanie: reverend, it is interesting. something i think is lost is you talk about the common good. the common good is about so much more than partisan politics.

it grows out of our personal and family lives. the mission and witness of our congregations. the social movements, the independent integrity of religious leadership in our public life. i think that that's -- just that phrase the common good -- >> skim the book very well. [ laughter ] >> because it is about the choices we make. in fact, the epilogue is ten personal decisions that we can make for the common good. a lot of times -- we're doing an 18 city tour here really to spark a conversation about the common good. a lot of folks are very cynical about washington and wall street. i can't change that. and there's reason to be skeptical about washington and wall street. however, our choices can become social movements that can even change places like washington. >> stephanie: you talk about -- you've always been -- this is why it has always amazed me that people like our friend sean hannity refer to you as

liberal and most of the stuff you talk about is stuff that jesus talked about who, to me, would be considered a liberal socialist about i fox news today, as well. doesn't it frustrate you? >> the best conservative idea is personal responsibility. the best liberal idea is social responsibility. so in the book i talk about why are these two things at war? i mean we need both personal responsibility in our own lives i'm a dad and a little league baseball coach and those choices are really important. and we need to take care of each other. our friend, wonderful friend, sean hannity has never really treated me like a friend but i want to respond to him like a friend. i treat him the way i would like him to treat me. i think we need a much better conversation. what's right and what works is more important than going left going right. in the book, i say don't go right, don't go left. let's go deeper and get something done. >> stephanie: by the way i will say you're a very spiritual

but you did not neglect to tell me that your team that you coach is 4-0. >> they did win -- i coach my son jack's team, they did win 10-3, it doesn't matter. >> stephanie: you're not keeping score. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: you're too spiritual for that. >> congratulations. >> stephanie: but i love the way this particular book -- and you said you think this is your best book yet which is saying a lot. because you've written a lot of great ones. this particular one, you say whether democrat or republican, tea party or occupier, christian, jew muslim, atheist our life together can be better. >> our life together can be better and i think people are hungry for that. i went on a sabbatical to write this book. i had a discipline of not responding to the political news cycle by writing speaking or being interviewed for three months. that was real hard for me. i was in a monastery for a week

and i decided not to go down to see the primary. i got up every morning. i had some quiet, some exercise and i read and wrote all day. at night i listened to the news cycle. the more i was disengage and the more i listened, the more depressing it really got. the vitriol the hatred, the anger, the fear, the paralyzation. we lost this ancient idea called the common good which goes back centuries. it is more timely than ever. this is the most timely thing i've ever tried to write. >> stephanie: an interesting time when you look at the poll -- the boston case where you know, once again we're talking about religion and you know not profiling an entire religion by saying look, many religions have misused religion. have twisted religion to use it for ill purposes. >> well, there's fundamentalism in all of our religious traditions. islam and judaism.

christianity, i've been fighting that most of my life. in boston, you had such a stark example of two people who seemed to be very troubled and their action was so horrible for the common good. story yesterday, this young woman who was jogging and she lost her -- her foot. she's a dancer. lost her foot. such a horrible story yet at the same time people were running toward the blast. so that's the common good in a heroic way. we see how forces are destroying the common good like in the election season where the czechs have replaced all -- the checks have replaced all of the balances in our public life. yet at the same time, there are examples of books full of good stories, hopeful stories about the common good. the common good comes last to places like washington. last. has to happen. our own lives neighborhoods then we can build social movements that really can change things. >> stephanie: well, i mean talking about misusing religion, it is interesting you obviously

base this on abraham lincoln quote. i'm sure you saw the movie "lincoln" and i thought there they are using the bible to justify slavery. it is not just one religion that has, i think has cornered the market on misusing -- >> no. i often say religion has no monopoly on morality. as a person of faith, i want to say that over and over again. where would we be without that king in desmond tutu and the people who have used faith to spark movements that have changed the world? faith is meant to change the world for the sake of other people. not just for the sake of ourselves. and so i think that the power of faith really is when it combines its energy. it is hopefulness. around the country, i feel a lot of hopelessness out there. people are coming to these events, they're just looking for hope. they're hungry for hope. so i often tell great little league story that just happened last year.

my team, they were 9-year-olds. they were losing because 9 10-year-old league last year, young league. we lost four. down 5-0 in the fifth game. top of the order has gone down. up comes the bottom. two kids to no fault of their own get on base. i mean they walked, right. up steps the worst kid on the team, stefan. he can't play. his parents are internationals. he hasn't got a clue about baseball. the ball hits the bat. and it goes into the outfield. and two runs score. starts a rally. we win 11-5. stefan is on second base. he's a brit. he's polite. he goes off to shake hands with the shortstop. i said stefan, you can't leave the base. said oh, i've never been here before. so at the end of the game, i give stefan the game ball because he's the hero, right. here's what the kid said. after game team meetings, sometimes you get what you need from unexpected places. we all were necessary for this

win today. we all were part of it. my star said it just goes to show, you can never give up on hope. so i've got a whole chapter in the book about this. unexpected hope is what we found that day. that's what people are looking for. hope i hope this book provides some of that. >> stephanie: interesting. jim, you said one of the quotes in here, while making a difference in the lives of poor and vulnerable people is seen as a nonpartisan issue then we make the most progress. >> mm-hmm. >> stephanie: that's the problem is we've gotten so polarized that you know, immediately people seem to retreat to their positions when you make it a partisan thing when that should seem so -- doesn't every religion talk about that? >> every one does. it is the last thing we talked about in the halls of power with one exception. right now i want to predict nothing else is happening in d.c. that's any good. nothing will happen except one thing. by august recess, i believe we will have comprehensive immigration reform. i've talked to republicans and

democrats and this is one time, one place where both sides many of them, are trying to put the common good ahead -- and what happens to 11 million vulnerable people, ahead of their own -- both sides have said lindsey graham chuck schumer said normally we would do these kind of things to help win the next election. we're going to do this in the right way. bipartisan, to solve something. >> stephanie: reverend it seems this time, that you know, the people that have -- on the right are trying to fearmonger after this boston case. we have to stop immigration reform now. i think that you're right. this has gotten too far -- it doesn't even matter whether the republicans are doing it for political purposes because they looked at the latino vote. as you say it still is for the common good. >> i tell the story about how this changed the faith community. where evangelical christians christians who talk about the bible a lot begin to read their bibles and were converted by their bibles when jesus says the way you

treat the stranger is the way you treat me. so all of the evangelicals have been converted on this question and then now their brothers and sisters are joining their churches. that's converting republicans and giving them the leadership they need support. they need to do the right thing here. >> stephanie: reverend jim wallis, what an honor. i'm going to ask you about being a matthew 25 christian when we get back. 18 34eu7s after the hour. right back on "the stephanie miller show." >> it is a happening spot. >> announcer: it's "the stephanie miller show." (vo) next, current tv is the place for compelling true stories. >> jack, how old are you? >> nine. >> this is what 27 tons of marijuana looks like. (vo) with award winning documentaries that take you inside the headlines, way inside. (vo) from the underworld, to the world of privilege. >> everyone in michael jackson's life was out to use him. (vo) no one brings you more documentaries that are real, gripping, current.

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free when you subscribe, go to bigcommerce.com. click on the blue headphones on the top left of the home page. select my name, stephanie from the drop down menu. bigcommerce.com. select stephanie. all right. reverend jim wallis is in studio with us, author of the new book "on god's side." you say recovering the common good requires transcending political ideology and leading on moral grounds. you've spoken about this so eloquently before. budgets are moral documents. i mean that should be separate from what side of the aisle you're on, right? >> should be. i tell some stories in the book. i'm in an office of the senator and he's one of the gang of eight and very much involved in the budget stuff. i say now senator you and i could get the 12 senators on both sides who defined a path to fiscal sustainability, couldn't we? he said yes, we could. and they could observe our

principle and our circle of protection which says you gotta protect the poor and vulnerable. you don't reduce a deficit by increasing poverty. you can't make the people suffer the most, suffer more. yes, we could do that but then all of the interests would come in the room, wouldn't it senator. they would demand their expenditures and the poor would be compromised. he said yes that's what happens every time. there are three pharmaceutical lobbyists for every member of congress. that's one industry. >> wow! >> who's representing moms and kids and -- one of every six americans are hungry in the richest country in the world. hunger rate is highest than it is has ever been. from a religious point of view, this is the most important fact about politics is the people who have been left behind. all of our traditions say that a nation is judged for its integrity by how you treat the poorest and most vulnerable. that's right there in the scriptures. >> stephanie: before the break, i was asking you about -- you are celebrating the new generation of matthew 25

christians, as you call them, who seek to carry out jesus' mission for the poorest rather than pursuing comforts of heaven. they're inspired by one of the most challenging messages of the bible. whatever you did, you did for me. which was -- what was your conversion text. >> it was. >> when you were a young man. >> one day actually, that phrase came from joe scarborough, morning joe. he said jim is right. there is a whole new generation of matthew 25 christians. and to me, i was -- i had been kicked out of my church at 14. they said christian faith has nothing to do with race. our faith is personal. i left in my head and heart. i was gone. i came back because of the text. the text is so radical. quick story in the back here. we're in the roosevelt room with the president. it is the debt crisis, year and a half ago. and our team includes the roman

catholic bishops national association of evangelicals, salvation army hardly a religious left group. the bishop says to the president, mr. president, the tax that obliges us compels us to be here does not say as you've done to the middle class you've done to me. it is as you've done to the least of these you've done to me. he says i know that text. i said i know you do. now, you need to exempt low-income people from this sequester. and we talked for an hour about that. that's how it happened. you know. so this text really is meant to hold politics accountable to protecting those who have no one to speak for them. >> stephanie: we were speak of the sequester reverend, we were talking about that earlier today that they fixed just the flight delays, just -- which again important but it is something that inconveniences members of congress, that there is a lot of public outcry over and yet there are so many of these cuts that are affecting so many people in horrible ways. they're not doing anything about

it. >> the longer it goes on, the more it will hurt poor and vulnerable people. they can't reach what they call the grand bagger april which just means find a way to get on a path -- we all want fiscal sustainability long-term. we have to find a way to control long-term healthcare costs. that's fine. we can do that. but you can't do it in ways that compromise the survival of people who are struggling to get by right now. so they could do this if they put their politics aside and just said let's find a way to do this right. but they don't want to go where the big money is. that's always the issue. >> stephanie: i quoteded a piece earlier this morning a doctor who said i want some of the congressmen to look me in the eye and say that them being inconvenienced or having a flight delay is the same thing as my patients not being able to get chemo or travel however many states away that they can't afford. >> or kids getting rationed for head start. kids are now in a lottery to see who gets headstart. we'll start losing more and more

and more and they could do this if they sat down. sometimes i think we aught to say i'm inviting you together. we're going to pray for you. we're going to pray for you and not let you out until you solve this. >> stephanie: you know, that's what's infuriating to people is that there is just this partisan gridlock that the whole theme of your book, they can't seem to get anything done for the common good. >> in the book, there is a letter from four members of congress republican and democrat. who wrote this powerful letter saying we didn't used to see each other as enemies adversaries, yes but not enemies. and we knew each other's spouses and kids. >> stephanie: when my dad was in congress, that's the way it was. >> i'm working out one day in the gym. i see gabby giffords. >> stephanie: wait. that's a tease. we'll have to do the rest of the story after the bottom here. 29 minutes after the hour. right back with reverend wallis here on "the stephanie miller show."

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great team you've got. this is fun. >> stephanie: go, team. >> stephanie: reverend, you were telling a story before the break about you were working out in the gym? >> the tv is on. i look up. here is my friend gabby giffords been shot in the head. i was with her a week before over new year's. she was one of the most least vitriolic people in all of congress. even she was vulnerable. members of congress call me to say they're afraid. it has never been as bad as it is. they're feeling like something has gone wrong as well. even conservatives who don't agree with me on policies, mike gerson was george bush's speechwriter says kindly on the back cover of the book, jim wallis and i don't agree on all of the issues but his call to

consider the common good couldn't be more urgent and timely. i think we can cross our boundaries, ask the right question what really is the common good here? now, we won't always agree but that's the right debate to have. >> stephanie: you make a good point. you say we people of faith may be the ultimate independence willing to challenge all sides on behalf of issues that command our moral attention. >> i know this may sound controversial on the radio but left and right are political carryings, not religious ones. when you try squeeze religious into them like the religious rite did sometimes people honor -- it distorts faith and it is supposed to hold us all accountable. and i think we can ask tough questions of both sides. but you have to ask questions from the right framework and in the common good, it is always what happens to those who are left out and left behind that is the ultimate test of our common good.

>> stephanie: you were talking comprehensive immigration reform. the opening of the george bush library, he was behind this. in terms of -- in terms of what's partisan or not and what suddenly became partisan. i think it is a step on a moral ground that we've stopped referring to human beings as illegals. >> we have two signs up at. >> borders. two invisible. the one says no trespass, the other one says help wanted. stuck between are 11 million vulnerable people. both sides are responsible for this broken system. even the people who say they're for this haven't shown much courage in the past. now the faith community stood up rose up and said okay, let's show some courage here. we found out that the american people are for fixing a broken system. it rips apart families. it is bad for our fabric of

life. we've convinced the country and washington will catch up with the rest of the country. that's always what happens in washington. we change public opinion on guns washington can't fix this. >> stephanie: that's right speaking of gabby giffords. i think you were talking about the loss of civility in terms of -- the background check vote. radio hosts that told the newtown families to shut up. you really think really? is this where we are in this debate? >> when children are supposed to bury their parents when it goes the other way around, something has gone terribly wrong. clergy are supposed to bury the older congreg ants. when clergy are drugger teenagers -- chen clergy are burying teenagers something has gone horribly wrong.

symbols of all of those who died since newtown. crosses. we had to plant 3,2 4*6r crosses, crescents and stars of david. very powerful, visual scene. i said to cbs news, all of the senators should have to walk past all of these crosses before they vote. and take a breath. say a prayer. a moment of silence then vote. i think the american people, 90% of us, wanted some common sense background checks, trafficking even that didn't pass. the majority of republicans wanted this. the majority of gun owners wanted something done. >> stephanie: somebody made the point earlier that you know, as it relates to the boston case these guys would not have had any problem getting a gun even though they're on the terrorist watch list. you know. it seems to be the one thing that we just can't touch. >> inner city pastors who you know, i've seen dead kids on the street.

okay. i've been to funerals with teenagers. inner city pastors will say it is the trafficking -- changing that would help save lives. no gun laws will be perfect. i want to say when gun manufacturers are supplying most of the money for the gun lobbies, what we're facing here in washington, d.c. is the part of gun runners. gun runners and they bought washington. and we're going to have to change this for the common good. parents will be central here. parents and pastors may change this long-term. >> stephanie: here's my favorite thing. what you consider to be controversial to talk radio. that's how sweet you are. kim in california, you're on with reverend wallis. hey, kim. >> caller: good morning, hi. in order for me to ask him a question i have to give you a little bit of background. reverend, i am a 55-year-old

female who stopped working a year and a half ago and decided to file for permanent disability. i, of course, got that but what doesn't come with it is any kind of medical care at all. i'm on my own in that regard. my medical care is a lot because of it. i'm literally starving and i'm wondering -- i went to get a hot meal from a church that always served them before last week and they don't do it anymore. the list was from the salvation army. i was in tears. i'm starving. would you talk to those same legislators you were with a year and a half ago asking them the same questions because california is now going to be cut even more. people on unemployment and i don't know how they can cut no medical care for people like me. you can't cut it because there isn't any. i'm really hungry. i need some help. >> your story -- i wish -- your

story and like yours could be told. remember recently senator changed his view on issues because he learned his son was gay. >> caller: yes. >> what would happen if senators had sons or daughters or family members who were poor? who were starving? as you say you are, in your situation. they don't. >> caller: they don't because they have influence on getting those people help. they have influence. they can say my dad is a senator. that will give them what ne need. >> they live in a different world. >> caller: there you go. >> stephanie: where do you live in california? >> caller: concorde. >> stephanie: northern california. >> caller: in contra costa. >> stephanie: hang on the line. i want travis to get your information. myrna in wisconsin. you're on with reverend wallis. go ahead. >> caller: hi, reverend wallis. >> hi. >> caller: i would like to get your thoughts on why you think heartlessness has become fashionable.

and i see this as a long-term issue, not just in this country but also friends in the u.k. that are -- experiencing the same kind of attitude of i've got mine, hell with you, excuse me. i'm wondering because i've seen this as a steady progression and it seems in relation -- to the previous caller in your comments, that it is almost impossible for people that aren't affected personally to have empathy for other people. anyhow, i'll stop. >> stephanie: thank you myrna. people have been talking about this reverend. is that where we've come in empathy in this country where you know, you can only understand it if it happens to you or your family? >> selfishness is not a virtue. and there are people, even in washington who celebrate

someone like ayn rand who expressed her hostility to jesus, for example. and selfish isn't a virtue. and there are some people who don't even believe in the concept really of the common good. >> stephanie: you must have been -- i have to say, this last -- in this last election, the last presidential election was such a stark example of what you're talking about. obviously paul ryan is known as being an aficionado of ayn rand. all of mitt romney's comments about the 47% and the moochers and however -- that whole debate was just so stark wasn't it? >> it was. and i write a lot in this book about this issue of money and politics. when senators tell me that they have to raise $20,000 every day to get re-elected, whose calls do you take? who do you have lunch with? they say it with a weary voice. they would rather read the bills they're voting on. they would rather engage more of

their constituency. but we have a political system now that is so insular from ordinary people. i was talking to a pastor, conservative pastor. he said it is this dependency thing i'm worried about. food stamps. okay, did you know that most people who get nutrition help, food stamps, are families, with a full-time worker in the house. families with a full-time worker. they just don't make enough to get by. he said oh, you should get that out. >> just inherit a million dollars. >> so kim's story the stories we're hearing this morning the stories -- i remember one time i was in washington, d.c. for another budget battle and another president. and we didn't make headway. we finally stat on the office steps and had a prayer vigil. the members of congress are look at us out of their windows and we had -- said come walk with us. come walk and meet the people

who need the food stamps. meet the kids whose pell grants are giving them a chance at college for the first time. come walk with us and find the people choosing between healthcare and heat in their homes. you don't know them. we know them. come walk with us. they didn't come walk with us. we were arrested on the office steps, put in jail. we were christian jewish, all of the rest. in jail, there are theo -- there were theological conversations. you all get arrested. >> stephanie: there is no atheists. 46 minutes after the hour. we started this segment talking about the boston case and i opened a book by accident to how to overcome religious extremism in the middle east and the united states. we're going to talk to reverend wallis when we get back on "the stephanie miller show." >> call stephanie now. she's easy. 1-800-steph-12. right back behind bars. >> the same people come back all

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♪ if god had a name ♪ ♪ what would it be ♪ >> stephanie miller. ♪ what if god was one of us ♪ >> stephanie: oh, really? front of reverend wallis? 51 minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-12 the phone number toll free from anywhere to talk to reverend jim wallis, author of "on god's side" and the official preacher of "the stephanie miller show." you say the book is aimed at the none of the above demographic. what do you mean by that? >> the largest growing religious affiliation in the country is people who check none of the above. but they believe in god mostly. they just don't want to deal

with religion because of what they see. so i love -- of course i love nuns. >> stephanie: the ones on the bus. >> really conservative places, there would be two rows of nuns. i say sisters why are you here? they say well, we're local. we heard you were coming here. it is a conservative place. we thought somebody should have your back. nuns for bod yes guard. -- nuns for bodyguards. i think a lot of young people are hungry for the common good. they don't see religion doing that. they want to give their lives for it. here's what happens when people of faith do and say what their faith says they should do. people are first surprised then attracted. so i'm talking about i think could reach the nuns with religion but are hungry to give their lives to make a difference in the world. that's what really faith is all about. >> stephanie: interesting. reverend, we were talking when we started the show about

obviously what just happened in boston. and religious extremism. you have a whole piece in here about how to overcome religious he can trealism. -- extremism. talk to us about that. >> this whole boston coverage, who did it and how can we get them. who did it? how can we smash them. religious extremism is not best smashed from the outside. it is better undermined from within. >> stephanie: yep. >> so in all of our traditions,. then tech expressions of faith will do more to undermine fundamentalism forever years. i would have the literal sons and daughters of the religious right leaders seek me out at night after i was speaking someplace and they lost their faith. you know. so how do we talk about authentic faith as a way to combat the extremism. that's what's going to work long-term. smashing from the outside helps them to recruit more people. you know, when we respond in

ways to evil, that really extends it and expands it and hurts more innocent people it recruits more terrorism. >> sure. they feel persecuted then they lash out. >> so responding with a different -- i talk about surprising our enemies. how do you surprise them with a different kind of response than wars of occupation. >> stephanie: and i loved all of the moms that spoke out after this and said this is -- you know, this is not -- this is not what the koran preaches. >> also, it is worth noting that when these violent actions are done by white people like oklahoma city, it is always the individual who is the problem. but when it is done by people of color or muslims it must be all of them. so we collectivize the response with the people of color or muslims so the book talks about stories about how when the mosque was burned in mussiry or sikhs attacked in wisconsin or hateful signs in the new york subways, local people put you up the billboards which said love

your muslim neighbor and sikh neighbor and it changed the whole conversation. there are stories about how ordinary people responding differently can change the whole conversation about this in the country. >> stephanie: reverend wallis, we've been talking about gun violence and you've been -- after newtown speaking about that as well. i wanted you to listen to a little of this. it is just talking about people that are finding creative ways to try to change, you know, hearts and minds. this is a mom her name is heather waily. one of the mom groups, moms against gun violence. she called a bunch of senators to express her disapproval with their vote. when she got to senator bob corker's office, she got a person. and take a listen. >> i'm in bristol. >> thank you. >> i would like to tell senator corker that on behalf of all mentally ill individuals in america, i want to thank him for protecting my second amendment

rights. >> yes ma'am i'll simply let senator corker know that message. >> can you repeat it for me, please? >> that on behalf of yourself and the mentally ill people of america, you would like to thank the senator for supporting your rights. >> yes. can you add just because i have been deemed by a court to be a dangerous, paranoid schizophrenic doesn't mean i shouldn't have the right to buy more guns, don't you agree? >> i can certainly let senator corker know this. >> do you agree? don't you? >> i will let senator corker know that for you. i'm just here to reflect his views, not my personal views. >> that's his views right? he supports my rights as a paranoid schizophrenic to not have to suffer the indignation of being turned away from a background check. >> yes ma'am. i'll let him know that for you. >> can you tell me if he agrees with me? >> his vote does reflect that. >> yes it disosmght thank you.

>> stephanie: anyway, people finding creative, funny ways to make a point. that's been all over the internet. you know just one of the many moms among other people out there that are outraged. reverend, this is such a larger problem that does encompass mental illness and guns. why are we killing each other at this rate? there are so many components to it. >> well, her story reminds me of -- i was in chicago recently. the pastors urban black or hispanic pastors who are burying teenagers. how do we get back to the human faces. that's the issue here. the human faces here, not just the politics and the money. so the common good always is about what happens to our neighbor. in the book, it is all about the lawyers who ask the question who is my neighbor. in the gospels, i think they're

all washington lawyers who ask him this question. they're now saying who is my neighbor. who is my neighbor? i want to avoid responsibility. and all of the gospel stories are extending who your neighbor is. what does it mean to love your neighbor. do you even know your neighbors. how about the poor neighbors. you don't know poor neighborrens you're not going very far. they're not far. your undocumented neighbor. your gay neighbor. who are your neighbors that you're not paying attention to. finally, paying attention to them is better for us all. that's really what will work long-term. >> stephanie: beautiful stuff. i live in hollywood so my gay neighbors not very far away. >> right up the hill. >> stephanie: right in my house, in fact. reverend, just another terrific book. "on god's side" is the book. what a pleasure to you have live in studio. >> great to be here. i'm going to apply this to the economy, to government, to all of the stuff that are big questions but it starts with our

own personal decisions. >> thank you. see you tomorrow.